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Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.01 19:59:00 - [1] The propaganda that "CCP shouldnt be allowed to limit who we can be friends with" has been strong in the North for quite some time. NC decided after TCF got nuked from the south to manipulate its members again making sure morale was high, knowing that their NAP Cancer only grew because they were intimidated by anything with equal numbers they decided to launch a weak and miserable communications campaign, called NAP Jong. As predicted people questioned NCs strategy to invite and blue everything, it was pretty obvious they feared anything with any skill but they had a weakness. Worried about multiple attacks from different fronts and demoralisation on forums, fortunately NC puppets were easy to manipulate and were conditioned to believe they were all friends when in fact they were bacteria growing in a petri dish. Anyway after Initiative left the north and went south the NAP Jong campaign turned to phase 2 which was simply to overfeed the fat coalition, acceptance of the obesity grew an extraordinary rate of which the slim and skilled of eve couldnt move. With so much fat one could only hope the NAP Cancer of the North would burst like a cyst but sadly it grew and grew, the SC developed a liposuction technique to drain as much fat as possible, despite removing lots of fat there was just too much to remove. With Atlas gone the ghost coalition known as SC no longer exists, NC is now officially 80% of all of 0.0, where policies involve no freedom, mass ratting and laughing at bad leadership jokes :WIDOT:. With this being the case 0.0 by default has become the new empire as statistics show theres more of a chance to die in Jita than there is in the North. I recently went to Branch from obe in an ibis on auto pilot for humour, local was entertaining but I was rather surprised why I lived assuming it was a fluke I returned back to empire once again on autopilot, only this time I died not to players but sadly to rats on a gate -.- I have decided to end my campaign to end the NAP cancer on eve as 0.0 is soo blue that all the bitter vets are slowly leaving anyway thanks to boredom and are killing off the NAPs anyway. On the plus side I have been having alot of fun in WHs and lowsec, the only time I see 0.0 is when a WH takes me there or when I need to rat on my razor alt because really what other reason is there to log on a 0.0 char anymore? Thanks to no risk / reward in diplomacy, 0.0 is the new empire :P -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.01 20:10:00 - [2] Edited by: Musical Fist on 01/09/2010 20:13:56 TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P @ Umega, well see last year Rawr promised more combat, more action more or well everything PvP, but what happened? Stupid mining CTAs and more mass recruiting everything, it got to the point where all we did was mine, rat and brag about how good and elite we are when in fact all we ever did was blob and node crash. Now you get all the old players only logging in to rat change skill or laugh at the pitiful PvE ops to build yet another imperian titan. No combat makes you kindda bored in a combat game especially when PvP is needed :P -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.01 20:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Kuar Z'thain u mad. u lag. -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.01 22:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Senghir Originally by: Musical Fist stuff So, let me get this right Way wrong and way inaccurate but thanks for trying -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 00:49:00 - [5] Edited by: Musical Fist on 02/09/2010 00:49:31 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Musical Fist I HATE THE NC AND ITS EATING ME INSIDE Why can't you post your **** in CAOD? I mean, seriously. We get it. You hate the NC and you want CCP to destroy them for you. What is it you're trying to accomplish by spamming GD with "IHATE THE NC I HATE THE NC I HATE THE NC!1!"? Are you hoping CCP will get so fed up and tired of you that they will smite the NC for you? I normally dont say this since its been used by almost everyone over the past 5 years but, U MAD? -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:11:00 - [6] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Musical Fist U MAD? You know what? Actually yes. I am mad. I'm mad at the NC. I'm mad they're owning you. I'm mad that they're making you so mad that you're making it your personal goal to spam the GD with your "I HATE THE NC" crap. FFS, can the NC PLEEASE give this dude some kills? PLEASE?!? Let him kill some NCs. I'm begging the NC to please let him win one. For the General Discussion's sake! Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population. -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:54:00 - [7] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/09/2010 01:27:22 Originally by: Musical Fist Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population. I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs. I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC. You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like. You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems. Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you? Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But that didn't work out too well, did it. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad . I cant believe you got angry over this thread, jesus christ woman get a grip, at least save the dramatic emorage for the assembly hall ones. -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 02:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Aiwha Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead? Watch for the cyno -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:18:00 - [9] Originally by: Captain Yifan Yet another 'I cant beat NC so CCP should help me' thread. Our next goal will be NAPing the entire sandbox, what are you gonna do about it? Cry? Diplomacy has zero risk reward, again a grunt from the Northern Cancer doesnt get what my point is. Since I am talking about NAPs it is no surprise NC the queen of all the NAPs gets spoke about. Diplomacy needs risk reward, I mention this all the time but it is understandable why you dont get this. I openly spoke about the SC the same way until the ghost coalition fell, oh and as for your sandbox remark, diplomacy is the ONLY thing that doesnt have any risk involved and the rewards are crazy. Even in RL as your puppet masters like to compare eve too has great risks involved in forming a pact. -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 18:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Ryhss I need a nap. I'm very tired. Where's my pillow? Hehe I used that in Jita about 3 months ago, got alot of good replies too -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 21:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Captain Yifan Q.E.D R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy. You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage Quote: it is an advantage we want to use, it isnt an exploit to have everyone NAPed and it isnt breaking any rules. If we survive by this then so be it, yes it sucks and yes its boring but its there so we take advantage of it You then get the MAX Mk I grunts who dont actually even get that this is a game and a game that has to have both pvp and pve to live, not one of the other. Quote: We are all friends, you cant stop us from being friends This is much like the recent BFF crap that ME did in MAX Mk II for morale, all to make things look normal and acceptable. Quite frankly I know it isnt rule breaking and this is why I am talking about it, because your logic much like everyone elses could be equally used for sovereignty, supercap changes and anything else thats been changed in the last few expansions. Imagine using this argument against the lvl 4 mission changes. Quote: lvl 4s dont need a nerf because everyone plays their own style, this is our sandbox we play how we like. It isnt rule breaking mission running to make ISK and you shouldnt cry to CCP to change it as it is fine, there is risk involved someone could lose his golem sometime Guess what theres a reason things got changed and evading combat due to mass NAPing outnumbering everything freely, using strategies that include node crashing by piling in everyone and their alt isnt exactly what someone would consider working as intended. By all means feel free to use the endless NC arguments on ANY change thats mean implemented, they can all be said freely to them but theres a reason things get changed and all I am asking is a risk involved in mass NAPing and sadly all I get is threatened NC grunts repeating the same crap they once said in the titan changes thread many many times. -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 23:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Captain Yifan Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/09/2010 23:18:19 Originally by: Musical Fist R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy. You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage Read that highlighted line, read it, and read it again. Are you posting in Musical Fistish? Could you get it google translated please? If English is your first language then you should feel very sorry for yourself. No pun intended, are you actually Russian? To summarise your reply, it is simply a threadful of cries, whines, amazingly bad grammatical mistakes and some incredible strawman-beating (want to counter my argument? please at least try to quote them instead of putting words into my mouth). If you really want to be taken seriously by someone (CCP!!!nerf the NC please they are overpowered) other than your (very) small (very) vocal group of supporters, you should try something called 'logic' and 'presence' instead. Really you are countering my reply by criticising my grammar, when yours was much worse, you must be pretty desperate. Guess you could always use the "make love not war" argument instead that normally gets a few laughs, oh and I underlined the part which will make you emotional, I mean WTF dude not one, not two but three exclamation marks then followed by nerf without a space and you never even capitalised n OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT!!WERE!!YOU!!THINKING! -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.03 00:01:00 - [13] Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 00:01:28 Originally by: Captain Yifan By the way, I find it funny that you think the 'CCP!!!' part means I'm emotional, do you actually want me to criticize your reading comprehension on top of your apparent lack of maturity? Ai ai captain by all means lets derail this, I guess when you dont have anything decent to say you immediately have to criticise stuff irrelevant to the game. It looks like I hit a nerve, but if you want you can send me a mail explaining about how my posts are ruining your life, or perhaps this thread is exactly what you think of your coalition and the truth is so unbearable you focus more on spelling and grammar than the actual topic. Its like calling an obese person fat, it isnt really surprising they get all defensive and start freaking out over other things Edit- I goto bed in an hour so lets rap this up -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.03 00:23:00 - [14] Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 00:24:15 Originally by: Jita Alt666 Dear Op. Diplomacy has its own risks and rewards. Your very un-diplomatic approach to this particular topic clearly illustrates this. You have attempted to engage in diplomacy with a zero risk/reward approach and it has failed. There are massive risks/rewards for alliances/corporations that engage in diplomacy. The only gripe you have that I can see being substantive is the simple fact that these risks/rewards are mainly held out of the game. How is CCP supposed to police our out of game behaviour? If an alliance today was to NAP another alliance who is 0.0 one of more of the following would happen. A. They become a pet B. They become a meat shield C. They become a renter D. They become a roaming alliance E. They become an ally The alliance they are NAPing will accept the NAP for the following reasons A. Meat shield B. Extra ISK Explain how exactly theres any risk in NAPing? Sure if you NAPed NC some alliance in the south might mark you red but thats hardly a risk considering you have 50k people waiting to outnumber everything that flies by. A few months ago I mentioned, if any major alliance either in the North, South or East were to crumble the coalition they are from by default would in effect would be dead due to huge number difference. This is normally a common thing on the map anyway and the ONLY way alliance EVER deal with it is to match the other numbers. Atlas in this case is the dead alliance which most likely will have its corps join other southern empires. Smaller alliances will remain small, renters, meat shields still and major alliances will NAP and grow at tumorous rates. So what do we see in a war (not that those happen anymore), node crashes and blobs all because NAPs can freely be created WITHOUT any risk. In short, smaller alliance will remain as a pet / renter / meat shield and larger alliance will try everything they can to crash nodes. Not that anyone will have gotten this far in my post (thanks ADHD) imagine all the alliances in the game NAPed, because thats exactly what it is getting close to being. Alliances focus more on NAPing and comparing spoon sizes that they are unaware they are the source of lag. Which is why the first thing you see happening when lag is fixed is everyone try to bring back lag by cramming everything in one system. TLDR - NAPs created lag and small alliances have no future in 0.0 thanks to NAPs. Oh and in case you missed it theres two points I bring up about NAPs not one :P -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.03 00:53:00 - [15] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 OP, the problems are not NAPs them selfes , but game mechanics tat makes it the only viable option. I can work with that :) I know I havent mentioned this in a while but I actually like diplomacy, I prefer there to be more options and more involvement, not just one click powerbloc. CCP working on fixing lag imo is a waste of time, sure once its fixed there will be a few wars but it will be the same thing like if was a few years ago and before you know it lag whines will return. But yeh it is something CCP should look into for the obvious reasons -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.03 01:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Jypsie So what's the point of this thread again. NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it? Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'? This and newer independant wars in 0.0 and not just providence. I like sov warfare, I like shooting caps, poses and stations, I like CTAs and being a pos gunner, I like watching a titan going pop and joining in the local spamfests while watching someones sovereignty drop. Alot of this can only be expereinced in 0.0, but does any of this happen anymore I know im bitter and wont let this go but I signed up to eve for player conflicts not "hello kitty who is ratting in my spot online". Now I could easily start my own alliance but whats the point no small alliance will ever have a future in 0.0 based on the current mechanics -- Recruitment now open!!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.03 01:11:00 - [17] Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 01:12:18 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Musical Fist Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Jypsie So what's the point of this thread again. NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it? Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'? This and newer independant wars in 0.0 and not just providence. I like sov warfare, I like shooting caps, poses and stations, I like CTAs and being a pos gunner, I like watching a titan going pop and joining in the local spamfests while watching someones sovereignty drop. Alot of this can only be expereinced in 0.0, but does any of this happen anymore I know im bitter and wont let this go but I signed up to eve for player conflicts not "hello kitty who is ratting in my spot online". Now I could easily start my own alliance but whats the point no small alliance will ever have a future in 0.0 based on the current mechanics Well I would imagine thats what everyone wants mate. But they can't do it or the node dies. So why don't you drop the NAP Coalition and start up the Mass Testing Coalition? I daresay that will get you the results you are after far quicker. Yeah I attend all of them, mainly to test out fits and stuff but I do show up for them on my main ;) I just dont see lag being fixed forever with the current mechanics ;) Edit- Or rather I did attend all of them before I went on vacation, only just returned recently, missed todays -- Recruitment now open!!

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